NARITO ang kabuuang transcript ng panayam kay Senate President Alan Peter Cayetano kung saan ipinaliwanag niya ang mga nangyari sa Senado at iba’t ibang isyu ng bansa na kailangang pagtuunan ng pansin ng mga Senador. Inilathala ito sa opisyal ng website ng Senate of the Philippines.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:00:00) And they were asking me na [i]expect na yung ibang pressure. Pero I have to admit, grabe yung pressure. And to all of you, lalo sa mga mahal namin sa media, read between the lines. Read between the lines. Any pressure, negative or positive, please read between the lines.
REPORTER:
(0:00:21) What pressure?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:00:22) Pressure na kumalas.
REPORTER:
(0:00:24) Who called?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:00:25) Alam naman ng lahat. So, ang aking inuulit na message, we’re here to collaborate. So, interdependence with the judiciary and the executive, wala naman problema sa judiciary, but with the executive, we want to collaborate. Ano yung, especially because of the crisis, [na]gugutom na talaga mga tao, talagang nawawalan na ng trabaho.
(0:00:50) I don’t blame them for trying, but mas marami nasasaktan habang tina-try. Tapos yun nga, katulad ng NBI, kagabi, lumabas, may gunpowder. So, nagsisinungaling talaga sa presidente. So, there’s a lot of lies, misdeception.
(0:01:09) Miscommunication ongoing. But yung members namin, we’ll hold together. Manipis talaga. Kaya grabe yung pang-intriga, grabe yung pakiusapan. May attempt kanina dun sa committees. Having said that, we’re all professionals and I don’t blame the minority. Nung nasa minority kami, gusto rin namin maging majority. Di ba? So, ang tinutuloy ko is that basta’t dun lang tayo sa tama pare-pareho, we’re willing to work with you.
(0:01:36) Pero yung hahawakan niyo kami sa leeg or magdidikta, especially kung papunta tayo sa changing the constitution. Medyo malabo kaming sumama.
REPORTER:
(0:01:47) How does that feel like? Parang you’re walking on edge na yun na very thin line. It’s what, 13, 11?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:01:57) The last time I felt like this was during the time ng Hello, Garci. Kasi it’s just so pure. I mean…
(0:02:02) I’m not saying lahat ng decision ko ay tama. I’m as imperfect as anyone else. But it’s a walk of faith. It’s just, Lord, kung ilalagay mo ako dyan, lagay mo. Biglang nilagay. Lord, kung tatanggalin mo ako, tanggalin mo na ako. So, I just have to make sure that every day is a day I really use to the optimum. Gamitin ko talaga yung kapangyarihan na binigay sa akin ng Senate President to do good. So, yun ang mi-meeting namin ngayon. What is the three to seven bills that can address the crisis.
(0:02:35) So ano yung Presyo, Trabaho, Kita or sa energy presyo ng kuryente or sa agriculture, maliit man ang epekto or malaki na we can propose to Malacanang tapos itulak ng husto. But can I ano ah? Medyo hindi lang kasi na-pick up because it was just one of my vlogs naman. Naparating sa akin na maraming nakapending na bagong taxes.
(0:02:56) And this is normal sa mga economist pagka ganito na may threat ng stagflation, nagmo-move sila for new taxes. Ang sabi ko, we will be open but only if mag-order muna sila ng 10% savings sa buong gobyerno, ipakita muna natin sa tao bago natin singilin ng mas mataas na tax, dalawa. One, nagse-save tayo, walang luho sa gobyerno. Number two, honest to goodness yung ating anti-corruption. Di ba? Kasi kung mag-new taxes ka, tapos ang mangyayari, tingin naman binubulsa, or magne-new taxes ka, pero tingin nila, pag tinignan, marami pang luho sa budget, hindi susuportahan ng tao yun.
REPORTER:
(0:03:39) The problem is economic spending is down.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:03:41) Yes.
REPORTER:
(0:03:41) So the economy is really not moving at all.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:03:45) It’s the first time, siguro after World War II, na nagkasabay-sabay. Oil, fuel, fertilizer, geopolitical tension. Tapos tayo kasi, tatlo-apat ang tama. Bakit? Marami tayong OFW. So each and every one na kailangan umuwi, walang sweldo yun. Pag uwi, wala na rin remittance yun. Tapos nung tinamaan ang Bahrain at Qatar sa gas, ang byproduct ng UREA, which is fertilizer, na ang biggest is India. So hindi naman basta mag-export. So mataas na, mahirap pang kumuha.
(0:04:25) Ano na eh? What do you call this? Nanganganak at damay-damay. Viral na rin yung crisis eh.
REPORTER:
(0:04:31) Opo. So, ito pong nangyari today, is this how the Senate will conduct itself? Na una, you were a Senate session, regular session, and then you convened the impeachment court. And then, biglang naalis na naman yung mga…
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:04:42) I’ll answer that directly. Then, I just want to thank the minority then. One…
(0:04:47) So, mangyayari nito medyo ilang linggo pa bago mangyayari yan yung naka-robe na araw-araw na. Bakit? Kasi may 10 days pa para sumagot ang Vice-President tapos 5 days pa tapos pre-trial pa. So, yung actual na trial, malamang niyan, tatama yan, nakabreak. So malamang yan, baka araw-araw kami, pero may committee hearings. Ngayon, pagka nagka-session na ulit, yun ang mas malaking challenge kasi kung 2-2, 2-2 sawa yung everyday, kailan tayo magka-session?
(0:05:19) Pero we’ll balance it. But I want to take the minority because they’re statesman and professional enough, nagka-usap-usap kami na while they don’t have the numbers, yung usual na proseso sa Senado, huwag natin i-delay
REPORTER:
(0:05:32) Senate President Cayetano, if we reverse engineer what happened noong Wednesday, parang tama ho ba na kulang ng communication between the GSIS and the Senate?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:05:43) Hindi, hindi kulang.
REPORTER:
(0:05:44) You were not informed na nag barena sila.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:05:47) Hindi kulang. Sinadya nila. Sinadya nila, ang GSIS never nagpapasok ng NBI kung may problema sa peace and order. Pulis parati yun. Number two, ibabarena mo yung pinto na lalabas yung mga senador. Isasara mo yung gate sa likod kung kailan lalabas yung mga senador. Tapos nung tinanong namin, wala daw NBI sa loob.
(0:06:10) O, eh bakit yung ngayon yung may pulbura sa kamay at dito sa loob ng Senate na huli? Di ba? So…
REPORTER:
(0:06:16) Would it have been simpler kung in-inform tayo ng GSIS na magba-barena kami to secure the door?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:06:21) Yes, pero masisira plano nila. Malalaman namin eh. Malalaman kasi namin eh. Malalaman kasi namin eh. Malalaman namin.
(0:06:29) At this point in time, the burden is on them to prove to us that it’s a series of coincidences. Kasi pag ni-reverse engineer namin, plinano talaga nila na pakita sa Senate na ganyan ha, sige may numero kayo, nandiyan si Bato ganyan ha, papaligiran naman namin kayo ng mga armado.
(0:06:50) Sen. Gringo Honassan said it best. Di ba? If you are where you’re not supposed to be at armado ka, what do you expect will happen?
REPORTER:
(0:06:59) SP, sabi po ng DOJ, sabi ni Justice Secretary Vida, coordinated daw yung move ng NBI, yung mga …inaudible… inamin niya na…inaudible.
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:07:06) Yes, and then he wants to investigate. Gusto ni Secretary Vida mag-imbestiga ang NBI [at] DOJ pero sila ang dapat imbestigahan eh. Kaya nga ang message ko sa kanya, hindi ka pwedeng Vida kung kontra-Vida ka. So kung gusto mo mag-imbestiga, kailangan neutral ka. Si Secretary Jonvic hindi ko kasama sa politika. Si Secretary Jonvic maraming policies namin, hindi niya gusto ko. Pero nung pumunta siya dito, malinaw.
(0:07:36) Impartial, sabay tayo, ano kailangan mo sir? Kailangan ko CCTV, sinubmit namin. So basta patas payag kami, pero huwag naman yung gagawa ng storya, tapos kami pa ang kontrabida sa huli.
REPORTER:
(0:07:51) Isa na lang po, SP, yung inaabangan ng iba yung chairmanship ng Blue Ribbon Committee, bakit po?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:07:55) Because nga, we wanted a bigger majority and we want to move forward na hindi confrontational pero lumabas lahat ng totoo. So we’re considering everyone. We’re considering Senator Marcoleta but we’re also considering someone else. Sabihin ko na, we’re considering Senator Pia. And then, dati flood control lang. Now, we have to investigate yung ginawa ng NBI. So, sa rules pa namin bibigay yan sa Blue Ribbon. So, it’s getting more complicated because nga of the events last week.
(0:08:31) Having said that, kung panay ganyan yung issues, kawawa ekonomiya natin. Kawawa si Juan de la Cruz.
REPORTER:
(0:08:38) Sir, bakit po SP hindi si Senator Marcoleta sa Blue Ribbon Committee?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:08:43) Because all of us agree na sabay-sabay ang problema sa bansa.
(0:08:49) So, unahin ko muna.
REPORTER:
(0:08:51) Pwedeng device… inaudible?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:08:52) No, no. Yung sinabi mong bakit hindi siya. We haven’t decided na hindi siya. Kung ang tanong, why are we considering others? Because from the start, nung nilagay nila ako, sinabi nilang lahat, walang magde-demand ng kahit anong committee, mag-usap-usap tayo. So, meron din mga nagsa-suggest na we will prioritize the flood control together with other economic and other issues
(0:09:24) For example, yung agriculture, yung mga smuggling, et cetera, nakakabaksak sa atin. So I haven’t talked to them, but all of them, Senator Pia, Senator Marcoleta, all of them said, SP, discuss lang, but we’re all open. So, that’s why we’re going to go on caucus ngayon. So, it may be, it may not be. So, we haven’t decided na huwag ‘to o siya ilagay. So, karamihan ng binasa natin today ay yung mga dati na, except for a few.
REPORTER:
(0:09:50) Inaudible… yung ano suspension order ng Ombudsman…
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:09:53) We’re going to discuss it. Kasi, after the Senators, ime-meet ko yung bagong sec-gen, tapos yung … inaudible.
REPORTER:
(0:10:00) Inaudible… humingi po siya ng clearance sa inyo na magwa-warning shot siya?
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:10:04) Wala na siyang time. Kapag sinusugod ka na, hindi ka na makakapaalam.
REPORTER:
Inaudible
SP ALAN PETER CAYETANO:
(0:10:18) One point lang. Ibabalik ko lang sa inyo sa warning shot. Okay? Kung sinabi ng Malacanang, bawal ang armado sa nakapaligid sa Malacanang, pumunta ka doon na naka-armado ka, hindi ka ba mag-warning shot? Pag sinabi sa Supreme Court, pag pumunta kayo dito armado, mag-coordinate muna kayo. Pumunta kayo, hindi kayo nag-coordinate, hindi ba mag-warning shot? The circumstance is very important.
(0:10:45) We were on red alert if I can call it that way because nung nangyari nung Monday at buong araw may mga report ng mga armado and deny nang deny yung NBI. So the investigation is ongoing pero yung maglabas na ng mga talking heads, yung mga nagsasalita na hindi dapat ng warning shot, napaka-delikado, pati ang PNP ha, yung heneral na yun, napaka-delikado nung sinasabi niya. Parang niyang tinatanggalan ng depensa ang Malacanang at saka ang Supreme Court sa pinagsasabi niya. So ang pakiusap ko…
(0:11:19) We’re being deliberate, we’re being prudent. Ingat kayo mga law enforcers kasi yung sinabi nyo, babalik din sa inyo. Yung time na kailangan niyo ng suporta dahil dinidepensahan niyo yung bansa, binigay namin. So now na may dumipensa sa Senado, magingat-ingat kahit inuutusan kayo.
